From petthoma at usyd.edu.au Sat Aug 1 08:44:50 2009 From: petthoma at usyd.edu.au (Peter Thomas) Date: Sat Aug 1 08:46:22 2009 Subject: [UniMacTech] Change path of imovie render files to local drive Message-ID: Dear All Have a need to change the iMovie render/cache/temp files path. When a network user tries to ?share? to file or idvd they often get a ?not enough space message? I believe this is because imovie is rendering a temporary file to the users network home directory on the file server. When I increase the users quota it works fine. However I don?t want to increase every of my 700 users quota by an additional 5gb just to enable imovie to be able to render - especially as users will always use 90% of quota available so this will not provide a good solution. If I can force iMovie to use local drive space, (all our lab machines have a everyone read/write data partition), then this problem would go away and also significantly reduce network bandwidth requirements and server load. I have had a look at the imovie plist but can?t see anything that looks like an imovie render file path Anyone got any ideas ?? Ta Peter Thomas IT Facilities Manager SYDNEY CONSERVATORIUM OF MUSIC The University of Sydney Macquarie Street Sydney NSW 2000 Australia P 61 2 9351 1331 | F 61 2 9351 1287 | M 61 0423829 837 petthoma@usyd.edu.au CRICOS Provider Code 00026A | DISCLAIMER NOTICE: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may be privileged. Any unauthorised use of it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please delete the message and any attachments. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://auc.uow.edu.au/pipermail/unimactech/attachments/20090801/e3768c2e/attachment.html From tonyw at honestpuck.com Sat Aug 1 09:13:26 2009 From: tonyw at honestpuck.com (Tony Williams) Date: Sat Aug 1 09:14:59 2009 Subject: [UniMacTech] Change path of imovie render files to local drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5db0907d0907311613s5880c5dfqbbbdaa28e33e8d94@mail.gmail.com> Peter, Have you tried changing "NSOutlineView Items projectOutline" from "/Users/tonyw/Movies/iMovie Projects.localized" to "/Macintosh HD/tmp" or some such. Have you figured out the exact path it is currently using? I just did a quick test or two and couldn't see it. // Tony (wondering why Peter is asking work questions before 9 on a Saturday?) On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Peter Thomas wrote: > Dear All > > Have a need to change the iMovie render/cache/temp files path. > > When a network user tries to ?share? to file or idvd they often get a ?not > enough space message? > > I believe this is because imovie is rendering a temporary file to the > users network home directory on the file server. > > When I increase the users quota it works fine. > > However I don?t want to increase every of my 700 users quota by an > additional 5gb just to enable imovie to be able to render - especially as > users will always use 90% of quota available so this will not provide a good > solution. > > If I can force iMovie to use local drive space, (all our lab machines have > a everyone read/write data partition), then this problem would go away and > also significantly reduce network bandwidth requirements and server load. > > I have had a look at the imovie plist but can?t see anything that looks > like an imovie render file path > > Anyone got any ideas ?? > > Ta > > > *Peter Thomas > *IT Facilities Manager > *SYDNEY CONSERVATORIUM OF MUSIC <**http://www.music.usyd.edu.au/> > The University of Sydney > *Macquarie Street Sydney NSW 2000 Australia > *P* 61 2 9351 1331 | *F* 61 2 9351 1287 | *M* 61 0423829 837 > *petthoma@usyd.edu.au > > *CRICOS Provider Code 00026A | DISCLAIMER NOTICE: This email and any files > transmitted with it are confidential and may be privileged. 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URL: http://auc.uow.edu.au/pipermail/unimactech/attachments/20090801/f75e246f/attachment-0001.html From krisk at walford.asn.au Sat Aug 1 10:12:34 2009 From: krisk at walford.asn.au (Kris Kopicki) Date: Sat Aug 1 10:14:06 2009 Subject: [UniMacTech] Change path of imovie render files to local drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0DA4CCDF-E9A4-45E8-949C-B838ACC56367@walford.asn.au> It writes to an invisible folder at the root of the drive (poor form apple developers!!!) called "iMovie Events.localized". The easiest thing to do is to put an invisible symlink in the root of the drive with this name, pointing it to where you want it. We redirect it to a users home folder with the folder redirection feature of MCX, something like ~/Movies/iMovie Events.localized Hope that helps, Kris On 01/08/2009, at 8:14 AM, Peter Thomas wrote: > Dear All > > Have a need to change the iMovie render/cache/temp files path. > > When a network user tries to ?share? to file or idvd they often get > a ?not enough space message? > > I believe this is because imovie is rendering a temporary file to > the users network home directory on the file server. > > When I increase the users quota it works fine. > > However I don?t want to increase every of my 700 users quota by an > additional 5gb just to enable imovie to be able to render - > especially as users will always use 90% of quota available so this > will not provide a good solution. > > If I can force iMovie to use local drive space, (all our lab > machines have a everyone read/write data partition), then this > problem would go away and also significantly reduce network > bandwidth requirements and server load. > > I have had a look at the imovie plist but can?t see anything that > looks like an imovie render file path > > Anyone got any ideas ?? > > Ta > > > Peter Thomas > IT Facilities Manager > SYDNEY CONSERVATORIUM OF MUSIC > The University of Sydney > Macquarie Street Sydney NSW 2000 Australia > P 61 2 9351 1331 | F 61 2 9351 1287 | M 61 0423829 837 > petthoma@usyd.edu.au > > CRICOS Provider Code 00026A | DISCLAIMER NOTICE: This email and any > files transmitted with it are confidential and may be privileged. > Any unauthorised use of it is strictly prohibited. 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Shannon ---- Sent from my iPhone On 01/08/2009, at 8:44, Peter Thomas wrote: > Dear All > > Have a need to change the iMovie render/cache/temp files path. > > When a network user tries to ?share? to file or idvd they often > get a ?not enough space message? > > I believe this is because imovie is rendering a temporary file to > the users network home directory on the file server. > > When I increase the users quota it works fine. > > However I don?t want to increase every of my 700 users quota by an a > dditional 5gb just to enable imovie to be able to render - especiall > y as users will always use 90% of quota available so this will not p > rovide a good solution. > > If I can force iMovie to use local drive space, (all our lab > machines have a everyone read/write data partition), then this > problem would go away and also significantly reduce network > bandwidth requirements and server load. > > I have had a look at the imovie plist but can?t see anything that lo > oks like an imovie render file path > > Anyone got any ideas ?? > > Ta > > > Peter Thomas > IT Facilities Manager > SYDNEY CONSERVATORIUM OF MUSIC > The University of Sydney > Macquarie Street Sydney NSW 2000 Australia > P 61 2 9351 1331 | F 61 2 9351 1287 | M 61 0423829 837 > petthoma@usyd.edu.au > > CRICOS Provider Code 00026A | DISCLAIMER NOTICE: This email and any > files transmitted with it are confidential and may be privileged. > Any unauthorised use of it is strictly prohibited. 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URL: http://auc.uow.edu.au/pipermail/unimactech/attachments/20090801/3b34c4ac/attachment.html From l.rathbone at imb.uq.edu.au Mon Aug 3 12:46:44 2009 From: l.rathbone at imb.uq.edu.au (Lance Rathbone) Date: Mon Aug 3 13:48:25 2009 Subject: [UniMacTech] OpenLDAP & Samba In-Reply-To: <4A7135BB.6050107@svi.edu.au> References: <4A7135BB.6050107@svi.edu.au> Message-ID: We are doing something very similar and it works for us like this. smb://server/l.rathbone/l.rathbone On 30/07/2009, at 3:55 PM, Jon Rhoades wrote: > Hi, > > We are in the process of setting up our existing OpenLDAP (on > Ubuntu) to provide authentication and MCX etc for our Macs. > > We are hitting a problem with our home directories - they work fine > using AFP (and presumably NFS), but we want to use Samba for obvious > reasons and we don't want to use Kerberos. I have searched high and > low for info on using Samba in this way, but have had no luck > > My simplistic approach so far was to change the following schema > value from AFP to SMB, but with no success - the login fails with a > generic error. > > apple-user-homeurl: afp://server/home/ url>jrhoades > > Does anybody have any experience using Samba in this way? > > > Cheers Jon > -- > Jon Rhoades > IT Support Officer > > St Vincent's Institute > 41 Victoria Parade Fitzroy Vic 3065 > p: 03 9288 2480 | f 03 9416 2676 > > www.svi.edu.au > _______________________________________________ > unimactech mailing list > unimactech@auc.edu.au > http://www.auc.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/unimactech ================================== Lance Rathbone BSc MCompStud Database Administrator Institute for Molecular Bioscience Queensland Bioscience Precinct Bldg 80, Services Road The University of Queensland St Lucia Qld 4072 AUSTRALIA Phone: +61 7 3346 2205 Email: l.rathbone@imb.uq.edu.au ================================== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://auc.uow.edu.au/pipermail/unimactech/attachments/20090803/64367adf/attachment.html From jrhoades at svi.edu.au Mon Aug 3 15:03:18 2009 From: jrhoades at svi.edu.au (Jon Rhoades) Date: Mon Aug 3 15:05:00 2009 Subject: [UniMacTech] OpenLDAP & Samba In-Reply-To: References: <4A7135BB.6050107@svi.edu.au> Message-ID: <4A766F96.7060701@svi.edu.au> Hi Lance, Thanks for your reply, it might be my LDAP/SAMBA authentication then. Out of curiosity are you using Kerberos for your Samba authentication? Cheers Jon -- Jon Rhoades IT Support Officer St Vincent's Institute 41 Victoria Parade Fitzroy Vic 3065 p: 03 9288 2480 | f 03 9416 2676 www.svi.edu.au Lance Rathbone wrote: > We are doing something very similar and it works for us like this. > > smb://server/l.rathbone/l.rathbone > > > > On 30/07/2009, at 3:55 PM, Jon Rhoades wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> We are in the process of setting up our existing OpenLDAP (on Ubuntu) >> to provide authentication and MCX etc for our Macs. >> >> We are hitting a problem with our home directories - they work fine >> using AFP (and presumably NFS), but we want to use Samba for obvious >> reasons and we don't want to use Kerberos. I have searched high and >> low for info on using Samba in this way, but have had no luck >> >> My simplistic approach so far was to change the following schema >> value from AFP to SMB, but with no success - the login fails with a >> generic error. >> >> apple-user-homeurl: >> afp://server/home/jrhoades >> >> Does anybody have any experience using Samba in this way? >> >> >> Cheers Jon >> -- >> Jon Rhoades >> IT Support Officer >> >> St Vincent's Institute >> 41 Victoria Parade Fitzroy Vic 3065 >> p: 03 9288 2480 | f 03 9416 2676 >> >> www.svi.edu.au >> _______________________________________________ >> unimactech mailing list >> unimactech@auc.edu.au >> http://www.auc.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/unimactech > > ================================== > > Lance Rathbone BSc MCompStud > Database Administrator > > Institute for Molecular Bioscience > Queensland Bioscience Precinct > Bldg 80, Services Road > The University of Queensland > St Lucia Qld 4072 > AUSTRALIA > > Phone: +61 7 3346 2205 > Email: l.rathbone@imb.uq.edu.au > ================================== > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > unimactech mailing list > unimactech@auc.edu.au > http://www.auc.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/unimactech > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://auc.uow.edu.au/pipermail/unimactech/attachments/20090803/b920a961/attachment-0001.html From l.rathbone at imb.uq.edu.au Tue Aug 4 10:06:55 2009 From: l.rathbone at imb.uq.edu.au (Lance Rathbone) Date: Tue Aug 4 10:08:37 2009 Subject: [UniMacTech] OpenLDAP & Samba In-Reply-To: <4A766F96.7060701@svi.edu.au> References: <4A7135BB.6050107@svi.edu.au> <4A766F96.7060701@svi.edu.au> Message-ID: <66749D72-9D76-4633-AD3F-EE4199C3C88C@imb.uq.edu.au> No - we are binding to the LDAP directory lance On 03/08/2009, at 3:03 PM, Jon Rhoades wrote: > Hi Lance, > > Thanks for your reply, it might be my LDAP/SAMBA authentication > then. Out of curiosity are you using Kerberos for your Samba > authentication? > > Cheers Jon > -- > Jon Rhoades > IT Support Officer > > St Vincent's Institute > 41 Victoria Parade Fitzroy Vic 3065 > p: 03 9288 2480 | f 03 9416 2676 > > www.svi.edu.au > > > Lance Rathbone wrote: >> >> We are doing something very similar and it works for us like this. >> >> smb://server/l.rathbone/l.rathbone> path> >> >> >> On 30/07/2009, at 3:55 PM, Jon Rhoades wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> We are in the process of setting up our existing OpenLDAP (on >>> Ubuntu) to provide authentication and MCX etc for our Macs. >>> >>> We are hitting a problem with our home directories - they work >>> fine using AFP (and presumably NFS), but we want to use Samba for >>> obvious reasons and we don't want to use Kerberos. I have >>> searched high and low for info on using Samba in this way, but >>> have had no luck >>> >>> My simplistic approach so far was to change the following schema >>> value from AFP to SMB, but with no success - the login fails with >>> a generic error. >>> >>> apple-user-homeurl: afp://server/home/>> url>jrhoades >>> >>> Does anybody have any experience using Samba in this way? >>> >>> >>> Cheers Jon >>> -- >>> Jon Rhoades >>> IT Support Officer >>> >>> St Vincent's Institute >>> 41 Victoria Parade Fitzroy Vic 3065 >>> p: 03 9288 2480 | f 03 9416 2676 >>> >>> www.svi.edu.au >>> _______________________________________________ >>> unimactech mailing list >>> unimactech@auc.edu.au >>> http://www.auc.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/unimactech >> >> ================================== >> >> Lance Rathbone BSc MCompStud >> Database Administrator >> >> Institute for Molecular Bioscience >> Queensland Bioscience Precinct >> Bldg 80, Services Road >> The University of Queensland >> St Lucia Qld 4072 >> AUSTRALIA >> >> Phone: +61 7 3346 2205 >> Email: l.rathbone@imb.uq.edu.au >> ================================== >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> unimactech mailing list >> unimactech@auc.edu.au >> http://www.auc.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/unimactech >> > _______________________________________________ > unimactech mailing list > unimactech@auc.edu.au > http://www.auc.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/unimactech ================================== Lance Rathbone BSc MCompStud Database Administrator Institute for Molecular Bioscience Queensland Bioscience Precinct Bldg 80, Services Road The University of Queensland St Lucia Qld 4072 AUSTRALIA Phone: +61 7 3346 2205 Email: l.rathbone@imb.uq.edu.au ================================== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://auc.uow.edu.au/pipermail/unimactech/attachments/20090804/480e98df/attachment.html From jrhoades at svi.edu.au Tue Aug 4 16:29:50 2009 From: jrhoades at svi.edu.au (Jon Rhoades) Date: Tue Aug 4 16:31:38 2009 Subject: [UniMacTech] OpenLDAP & Samba - resolved In-Reply-To: <4A7135BB.6050107@svi.edu.au> References: <4A7135BB.6050107@svi.edu.au> Message-ID: <4A77D55E.5070808@svi.edu.au> It would appear that by changing the following ldap entry apple-user-homeurl : smb://server/*jrhoades*smb://server/*jrhoades/* Fixed it! -- Jon Rhoades IT Support Officer St Vincent's Institute 41 Victoria Parade Fitzroy Vic 3065 p: 03 9288 2480 | f 03 9416 2676 www.svi.edu.au Jon Rhoades wrote: > Hi, > > We are in the process of setting up our existing OpenLDAP (on Ubuntu) > to provide authentication and MCX etc for our Macs. > > We are hitting a problem with our home directories - they work fine > using AFP (and presumably NFS), but we want to use Samba for obvious > reasons and we don't want to use Kerberos. I have searched high and > low for info on using Samba in this way, but have had no luck > > My simplistic approach so far was to change the following schema value > from AFP to SMB, but with no success - the login fails with a generic > error. > > apple-user-homeurl: > afp://server/home/jrhoades > > Does anybody have any experience using Samba in this way? > > > Cheers Jon > -- > Jon Rhoades > IT Support Officer > > St Vincent's Institute > 41 Victoria Parade Fitzroy Vic 3065 > p: 03 9288 2480 | f 03 9416 2676 > > www.svi.edu.au > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > unimactech mailing list > unimactech@auc.edu.au > http://www.auc.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/unimactech > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://auc.uow.edu.au/pipermail/unimactech/attachments/20090804/d135c4f5/attachment.html From david.hamono at adm.monash.edu.au Fri Aug 7 11:57:30 2009 From: david.hamono at adm.monash.edu.au (David Hamono) Date: Fri Aug 7 12:57:49 2009 Subject: [UniMacTech] Issue with 10.5.8 server version Message-ID: <57645872-F4A3-42E9-8634-01C6513ABCFA@adm.monash.edu.au> from: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1256354&p=-1#bottom There is a bug in 10.5.8 for servers. If you have multiple NICs in your server, after the reboot OSX throws up an error that your "serial number is invalid", due to "duplicate serial number". This stops all services from starting and the only current fix is to disable one of the NICs. I did this and rebooted and it is all good now. Lucky enough for me, the 2nd NIC is not required atm. The issue also occurs with an ethernet and wireless adapter installed in the same server. Apple are aware of the issue and are looking into a permanent fix. -- Regards, David Hamono ----------------------------------------------------------- M O N A S H U N I V E R S I T Y Box 197, 900 Dandenong Rd Caulfield East 3145, Australia tel: (+61 3) 9903 4868 fax: (+61 3) 9903 4887 mobile: 0427 887 558 email: david.hamono@adm.monash.edu.au ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------------------------- Note: Content and opinions of any email are not necessarily related to my position or employer. Unintended recipient please delete from systems. From peter.varitimidis at rmit.edu.au Fri Aug 7 13:17:45 2009 From: peter.varitimidis at rmit.edu.au (Peter Varitimidis) Date: Fri Aug 7 13:21:25 2009 Subject: [UniMacTech] Issue with 10.5.8 server version In-Reply-To: <57645872-F4A3-42E9-8634-01C6513ABCFA@adm.monash.edu.au> References: <57645872-F4A3-42E9-8634-01C6513ABCFA@adm.monash.edu.au> Message-ID: On 07/08/2009, at 11:57 AM, David Hamono wrote: > from: > http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1256354&p=-1#bottom > > There is a bug in 10.5.8 for servers. > If you have multiple NICs in your server, after the reboot OSX > throws up an error that your "serial number is invalid", due to > "duplicate serial number". > This stops all services from starting and the only current fix is to > disable one of the NICs. I did this and rebooted and it is all good > now. Lucky enough for me, the 2nd NIC is not required atm. > The issue also occurs with an ethernet and wireless adapter > installed in the same server. > Apple are aware of the issue and are looking into a permanent fix. > -- > > Regards, > > David Hamono I hit this yesterday, very very frustrating.. Peter From C.Nancarrow at latrobe.edu.au Fri Aug 7 15:23:54 2009 From: C.Nancarrow at latrobe.edu.au (Charlie Nancarrow) Date: Fri Aug 7 15:24:17 2009 Subject: [UniMacTech] Issue with 10.5.8 server version In-Reply-To: <57645872-F4A3-42E9-8634-01C6513ABCFA@adm.monash.edu.au> Message-ID: Whilst it may seem a bug, there maybe ways around it. Does it happen even if the NICs are on separate LANs/Subnets? I can't imagine too many situations where you would (or should) have both NICs on the same subnet. If you have both NICs active on the same subnet you can have other issues with mdns and other broadcast traffic. Perhaps Link Aggregation (Teaming, or 802.3ad) is a better option here to provide redundancy and better bandwidth to the server. If you are trying to devide up the traffic, devide it up with subnets, with the server with a foot in both camps. /usr/sbin/serialnumberd communicates on UDP port 626 so you could potentially block this with firewall rules, though I did hear stories of this being re-enabled by serialnumberd itself. Also serialnumberd will lock out Server Admin and AFP services, if it is killed or not running. This process only searches local subnets, so if your interfaces are on different subnets you shouldn't have an issue. On 7/08/09 11:57 AM, "David Hamono" wrote: from: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1256354&p=-1#bottom There is a bug in 10.5.8 for servers. If you have multiple NICs in your server, after the reboot OSX throws up an error that your "serial number is invalid", due to "duplicate serial number". This stops all services from starting and the only current fix is to disable one of the NICs. I did this and rebooted and it is all good now. Lucky enough for me, the 2nd NIC is not required atm. The issue also occurs with an ethernet and wireless adapter installed in the same server. Apple are aware of the issue and are looking into a permanent fix. -- Regards, David Hamono ----------------------------------------------------------- M O N A S H U N I V E R S I T Y Box 197, 900 Dandenong Rd Caulfield East 3145, Australia tel: (+61 3) 9903 4868 fax: (+61 3) 9903 4887 mobile: 0427 887 558 email: david.hamono@adm.monash.edu.au ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------------------------- Note: Content and opinions of any email are not necessarily related to my position or employer. Unintended recipient please delete from systems. _______________________________________________ unimactech mailing list unimactech@auc.edu.au http://www.auc.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/unimactech -- Charlie IT Unit - Humanities & Social Sciences From m.haggman at qut.edu.au Fri Aug 7 16:25:39 2009 From: m.haggman at qut.edu.au (Michel Haggman) Date: Fri Aug 7 16:29:13 2009 Subject: [UniMacTech] Storage Options for HD Video and Final Cut? Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 24416 bytes Desc: image.jpg Url : http://auc.uow.edu.au/pipermail/unimactech/attachments/20090807/8c0074d8/image-0001.jpg From petthoma at usyd.edu.au Fri Aug 7 16:53:11 2009 From: petthoma at usyd.edu.au (Peter Thomas) Date: Fri Aug 7 16:53:29 2009 Subject: [UniMacTech] Re: Contents unimactech Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4 - Storage Options for HD Video and Final Cut? In-Reply-To: <20090807062915.5A0BB1C1E3D4@auc.uow.edu.au> Message-ID: Dear All, I am still running 10.5.6 on our servers so have not had this problem yet. All our servers are running aggregated/bonded ports does anyone have any experience whether this problem occurs in 10.5.8 with the our configuration ? Am I correct in assuming that this bug means it's not possible to run LOM through second network port ? Thanks Peter Thomas IT Facilities Manager SYDNEY CONSERVATORIUM OF MUSIC The University of Sydney Macquarie Street Sydney NSW 2000 Australia P 61 2 9351 1331 | F 61 2 9351 1287 | M 61 0423829 837 petthoma@usyd.edu.au CRICOS Provider Code 00026A | DISCLAIMER NOTICE: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may be privileged. Any unauthorised use of it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please delete the message and any attachments. On 7/08/2009 4:29 PM, "unimactech-request@auc.edu.au" wrote: > Send unimactech mailing list submissions to > unimactech@auc.edu.au > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.auc.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/unimactech > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > unimactech-request@auc.edu.au > > You can reach the person managing the list at > unimactech-owner@auc.edu.au > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of unimactech digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Issue with 10.5.8 server version (Charlie Nancarrow) > 2. Storage Options for HD Video and Final Cut? (Michel Haggman) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:23:54 +1000 > From: Charlie Nancarrow > Subject: Re: [UniMacTech] Issue with 10.5.8 server version > To: University Macintosh Technical Mailing List > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Whilst it may seem a bug, there maybe ways around it. > > Does it happen even if the NICs are on separate LANs/Subnets? > > I can't imagine too many situations where you would (or should) have both NICs > on the same subnet. > If you have both NICs active on the same subnet you can have other issues with > mdns and other broadcast traffic. > > Perhaps Link Aggregation (Teaming, or 802.3ad) is a better option here to > provide redundancy and better bandwidth to the server. > If you are trying to devide up the traffic, devide it up with subnets, with > the server with a foot in both camps. > > /usr/sbin/serialnumberd communicates on UDP port 626 so you could potentially > block this with firewall rules, though I did hear stories of this being > re-enabled by serialnumberd itself. Also serialnumberd will lock out Server > Admin and AFP services, if it is killed or not running. > > This process only searches local subnets, so if your interfaces are on > different subnets you shouldn't have an issue. > > > > > On 7/08/09 11:57 AM, "David Hamono" wrote: > > from: > http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1256354&p=-1#bottom > > There is a bug in 10.5.8 for servers. > If you have multiple NICs in your server, after the reboot OSX throws > up an error that your "serial number is invalid", due to "duplicate > serial number". > This stops all services from starting and the only current fix is to > disable one of the NICs. I did this and rebooted and it is all good > now. Lucky enough for me, the 2nd NIC is not required atm. > The issue also occurs with an ethernet and wireless adapter installed > in the same server. > Apple are aware of the issue and are looking into a permanent fix. > -- > > Regards, > > David Hamono > ----------------------------------------------------------- > M O N A S H U N I V E R S I T Y > Box 197, 900 Dandenong Rd > Caulfield East 3145, Australia > tel: (+61 3) 9903 4868 > fax: (+61 3) 9903 4887 > mobile: 0427 887 558 > email: david.hamono@adm.monash.edu.au > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Note: Content and opinions of any email are not > necessarily related to my position or employer. > Unintended recipient please delete from systems. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > unimactech mailing list > unimactech@auc.edu.au > http://www.auc.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/unimactech > > > -- > Charlie > IT Unit - Humanities & Social Sciences > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:25:39 +1000 > From: Michel Haggman > Subject: [UniMacTech] Storage Options for HD Video and Final Cut? > To: University Macintosh Technical Mailing List > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part > -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 24416 bytes > Desc: image.jpg > Url : > http://auc.uow.edu.au/pipermail/unimactech/attachments/20090807/8c0074d8/image > .jpg > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > unimactech mailing list > unimactech@auc.edu.au > http://www.auc.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/unimactech > > > End of unimactech Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4 > ***************************************** From peter.sansom at adelaide.edu.au Fri Aug 7 16:57:24 2009 From: peter.sansom at adelaide.edu.au (Peter Sansom) Date: Fri Aug 7 17:03:00 2009 Subject: [UniMacTech] Storage Options for HD Video and Final Cut? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Mitch, Here at Adelaide we have tended to ask students to provide their own firewire drives. While they can edit on the internal drive, they can back up to the firewire drive when finished. Not perfect I know, but it shifts the cost and more importantly makes the students footage their own responsibility. We feel that it is important for them to understand file management, especially if they are thinking of pursuing video production themselves. It would be interesting to hear what other solutions there are though, Cheers Peter Sansom On 07/08/2009, at 3:55 PM, Michel Haggman wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > With HD video becoming the industry (and thus teaching) standard, > storage constraints are quickly becoming the big issue for our > Final Cut machines. It?s hard to justify the price difference > between an iMac and a MacPro when all we really need the MacPro for > is the second hard drive bay ? yet I seem to be at a loss for a > suitable alternative. > > Is anyone doing anything interesting/cost effective to circumvent > this problem? I had thought to go some kind of desktop firewire > raid device, but then the problem arises that the DVcam will be on > the same firewire bus. A SAN for the lab also is out of the > question because 24 HD streams (even over gig ethernet) will be a > big fat fail. > > Thoughts? > > -Mitch > > > > _______________________________________________ > unimactech mailing list > unimactech@auc.edu.au > http://www.auc.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/unimactech -- Peter Sansom EMU Technical Officer - Elder Conservatorium & School of Humanities (Media) The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph : +61 8 8303 3550 Fax : +61 8 8303 4423 e-mail: peter.sansom@adelaide.edu.au .... . . . . . . . . . . . . Schulz Building, Level 5, s515 .... . . . . . . . . . . . . Office Hours - Monday - Friday 9:00am - 5:30pm CRICOS Provider Number 00123M ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains informatoin that may be confidential and/or copyright. If you are not the intended recipient pleese notify the sender by reply email and immediately delete this email. Use, disclosure or reproduction of this email by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. No representation is made that this email or any attachments are free of viruses. Virus scanning is recommended and is the responsibility of the recipient. From C.Nancarrow at latrobe.edu.au Fri Aug 7 17:03:33 2009 From: C.Nancarrow at latrobe.edu.au (Charlie Nancarrow) Date: Fri Aug 7 17:04:00 2009 Subject: [UniMacTech] Storage Options for HD Video and Final Cut? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Mitch, The big fat gigabit fail would occur if the weakest link (the patch to the server) was also just a single Gigabit link. I would be investing in a Server with a 4 port Gigabit card (or two 4 port cards). This would then be bonded/teamed on all ports to a switch with a good fabric speed. The server would have a RAID 50 array attached for Video storage. I would ALSO have FireWire 800 drives attached to the iMacs for local storage. You might like to look into MetaSAN software which is quite cost effective and works across Gigabit well. Again getting the network design right with some decent fast fabric switches is the key here. Having the DVcam on the same bus usually is not a huge issue as you are only congesting the link when ingesting the video. The rest of the time it is all about playing one or more streams from the drive, where having the camera attached should not cause any problems. Cheers, Charlie. On 7/08/09 4:25 PM, "Michel Haggman" wrote: Hi everyone, With HD video becoming the industry (and thus teaching) standard, storage constraints are quickly becoming the big issue for our Final Cut machines. It's hard to justify the price difference between an iMac and a MacPro when all we really need the MacPro for is the second hard drive bay - yet I seem to be at a loss for a suitable alternative. Is anyone doing anything interesting/cost effective to circumvent this problem? I had thought to go some kind of desktop firewire raid device, but then the problem arises that the DVcam will be on the same firewire bus. A SAN for the lab also is out of the question because 24 HD streams (even over gig ethernet) will be a big fat fail. Thoughts? -Mitch [cid:3332509413_308574] -- Charlie IT Unit - Humanities & Social Sciences -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Where this gets challenging is that OS X Server cannot create iSCSI targets, only initiators exist at present. Anyone say VM? I played with a linux distro called OpenFiler and got it working, and so now I'm about to play with Nexenta as it includes ZFS... (being a solaris distro) ;) Just some options, Cheers, Raoul Callaghan I.T. Manager Australian Mathematical Sciences Institute 111 Barry Street The University of Melbourne Victoria 3010 Australia p: 03 8344 1783 f: 03 9349 4106 e: raoul@amsi.org.au TYPEWRITER is the longest word that can be made using the letters only on one row of the keyboard. On 07/08/2009, at 4:25 PM, Michel Haggman wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > With HD video becoming the industry (and thus teaching) standard, > storage constraints are quickly becoming the big issue for our Final > Cut machines. It?s hard to justify the price difference between an > iMac and a MacPro when all we really need the MacPro for is the > second hard drive bay ? yet I seem to be at a loss for a suitable > alternative. > > Is anyone doing anything interesting/cost effective to circumvent > this problem? I had thought to go some kind of desktop firewire > raid device, but then the problem arises that the DVcam will be on > the same firewire bus. A SAN for the lab also is out of the > question because 24 HD streams (even over gig ethernet) will be a > big fat fail. > > Thoughts? > > -Mitch > > > _______________________________________________ > unimactech mailing list > unimactech@auc.edu.au > http://www.auc.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/unimactech -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We've basically made students buy fire wire 800 drives even though there is risk of data loss if they lose or damage their drives but it's their risk not ours. Basically we make sure they are clear on risk and make it part of the educational process so when they get to real world they are prepared. We have fast switch, (super fast backplane) connected to newish Xserve with dual aggregated ports and all student computers on same switch so network architecture is as fast as we can get. I still have challenges when lab of 15 clients all try and use Final Cut express with HD media files on server just getting data to student machines all at once. I've done the $$$$ math and just can't justify the cost of network server infrastructure to make it achievable to give students the amount of disk space they require for them all to be able to store all of their media files on servers that are fast enough. If you find anything affordable please report back to us. 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(Michel Haggman) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:23:54 +1000 >> From: Charlie Nancarrow >> Subject: Re: [UniMacTech] Issue with 10.5.8 server version >> To: University Macintosh Technical Mailing List >> >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Whilst it may seem a bug, there maybe ways around it. >> >> Does it happen even if the NICs are on separate LANs/Subnets? >> >> I can't imagine too many situations where you would (or should) have both >> NICs >> on the same subnet. >> If you have both NICs active on the same subnet you can have other issues >> with >> mdns and other broadcast traffic. >> >> Perhaps Link Aggregation (Teaming, or 802.3ad) is a better option here to >> provide redundancy and better bandwidth to the server. >> If you are trying to devide up the traffic, devide it up with subnets, with >> the server with a foot in both camps. >> >> /usr/sbin/serialnumberd communicates on UDP port 626 so you could potentially >> block this with firewall rules, though I did hear stories of this being >> re-enabled by serialnumberd itself. Also serialnumberd will lock out Server >> Admin and AFP services, if it is killed or not running. >> >> This process only searches local subnets, so if your interfaces are on >> different subnets you shouldn't have an issue. >> >> >> >> >> On 7/08/09 11:57 AM, "David Hamono" wrote: >> >> from: >> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1256354&p=-1#bottom >> >> There is a bug in 10.5.8 for servers. >> If you have multiple NICs in your server, after the reboot OSX throws >> up an error that your "serial number is invalid", due to "duplicate >> serial number". >> This stops all services from starting and the only current fix is to >> disable one of the NICs. I did this and rebooted and it is all good >> now. Lucky enough for me, the 2nd NIC is not required atm. >> The issue also occurs with an ethernet and wireless adapter installed >> in the same server. >> Apple are aware of the issue and are looking into a permanent fix. >> -- >> >> Regards, >> >> David Hamono >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> M O N A S H U N I V E R S I T Y >> Box 197, 900 Dandenong Rd >> Caulfield East 3145, Australia >> tel: (+61 3) 9903 4868 >> fax: (+61 3) 9903 4887 >> mobile: 0427 887 558 >> email: david.hamono@adm.monash.edu.au >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> Note: Content and opinions of any email are not >> necessarily related to my position or employer. >> Unintended recipient please delete from systems. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> unimactech mailing list >> unimactech@auc.edu.au >> http://www.auc.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/unimactech >> >> >> -- >> Charlie >> IT Unit - Humanities & Social Sciences >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:25:39 +1000 >> From: Michel Haggman >> Subject: [UniMacTech] Storage Options for HD Video and Final Cut? >> To: University Macintosh Technical Mailing List >> >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part >> -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: image.jpg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 24416 bytes >> Desc: image.jpg >> Url : >> http://auc.uow.edu.au/pipermail/unimactech/attachments/20090807/8c0074d8/imag>> e >> .jpg >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> unimactech mailing list >> unimactech@auc.edu.au >> http://www.auc.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/unimactech >> >> >> End of unimactech Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4 >> ***************************************** > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:27:24 +0930 > From: Peter Sansom > Subject: Re: [UniMacTech] Storage Options for HD Video and Final Cut? > To: University Macintosh Technical Mailing List > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; > format=flowed > > Hello Mitch, > > Here at Adelaide we have tended to ask students to provide their own > firewire > drives. While they can edit on the internal drive, they can back up > to the firewire > drive when finished. Not perfect I know, but it shifts the cost and > more importantly > makes the students footage their own responsibility. We feel that it > is important for > them to understand file management, especially if they are thinking > of pursuing video > production themselves. > > It would be interesting to hear what other solutions there are though, > > Cheers > > Peter Sansom > > On 07/08/2009, at 3:55 PM, Michel Haggman wrote: > >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> With HD video becoming the industry (and thus teaching) standard, >> storage constraints are quickly becoming the big issue for our >> Final Cut machines. It?s hard to justify the price difference >> between an iMac and a MacPro when all we really need the MacPro for >> is the second hard drive bay ? yet I seem to be at a loss for a >> suitable alternative. >> >> Is anyone doing anything interesting/cost effective to circumvent >> this problem? I had thought to go some kind of desktop firewire >> raid device, but then the problem arises that the DVcam will be on >> the same firewire bus. A SAN for the lab also is out of the >> question because 24 HD streams (even over gig ethernet) will be a >> big fat fail. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> -Mitch >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> unimactech mailing list >> unimactech@auc.edu.au >> http://www.auc.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/unimactech > > -- > Peter Sansom > EMU Technical Officer - Elder Conservatorium & School of Humanities > (Media) > The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 > Ph : +61 8 8303 3550 > Fax : +61 8 8303 4423 > e-mail: peter.sansom@adelaide.edu.au > > .... . . . . . . . . . . . . > Schulz Building, Level 5, s515 > .... . . . . . . . . . . . . > > Office Hours - > > Monday - Friday 9:00am - 5:30pm > > CRICOS Provider Number 00123M > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----- > This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) > and contains informatoin that may be confidential and/or > copyright. If you are not the intended recipient pleese > notify the sender by reply email and immediately delete > this email. Use, disclosure or reproduction of this email > by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly > prohibited. No representation is made that this email or > any attachments are free of viruses. Virus scanning is > recommended and is the responsibility of the recipient. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:03:33 +1000 > From: Charlie Nancarrow > Subject: Re: [UniMacTech] Storage Options for HD Video and Final Cut? > To: University Macintosh Technical Mailing List > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Mitch, > > The big fat gigabit fail would occur if the weakest link (the patch to the > server) was also just a single Gigabit link. > > I would be investing in a Server with a 4 port Gigabit card (or two 4 port > cards). This would then be bonded/teamed on all ports to a switch with a good > fabric speed. The server would have a RAID 50 array attached for Video > storage. > > I would ALSO have FireWire 800 drives attached to the iMacs for local storage. > > You might like to look into MetaSAN software which is quite cost effective and > works across Gigabit well. > > Again getting the network design right with some decent fast fabric switches > is the key here. > > Having the DVcam on the same bus usually is not a huge issue as you are only > congesting the link when ingesting the video. The rest of the time it is all > about playing one or more streams from the drive, where having the camera > attached should not cause any problems. > > Cheers, > > Charlie. > > > > > On 7/08/09 4:25 PM, "Michel Haggman" wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > With HD video becoming the industry (and thus teaching) standard, storage > constraints are quickly becoming the big issue for our Final Cut machines. > It's hard to justify the price difference between an iMac and a MacPro when > all we really need the MacPro for is the second hard drive bay - yet I seem to > be at a loss for a suitable alternative. > > Is anyone doing anything interesting/cost effective to circumvent this > problem? I had thought to go some kind of desktop firewire raid device, but > then the problem arises that the DVcam will be on the same firewire bus. A > SAN for the lab also is out of the question because 24 HD streams (even over > gig ethernet) will be a big fat fail. > > Thoughts? > > -Mitch > > [cid:3332509413_308574] > > > -- > Charlie > IT Unit - Humanities & Social Sciences > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 24416 bytes > Desc: image.jpg > Url : > http://auc.uow.edu.au/pipermail/unimactech/attachments/20090807/348a5756/image > .jpg > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > unimactech mailing list > unimactech@auc.edu.au > http://www.auc.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/unimactech > > > End of unimactech Digest, Vol 68, Issue 5 > ***************************************** From Daniel.Conway at newcastle.edu.au Fri Aug 7 17:36:32 2009 From: Daniel.Conway at newcastle.edu.au (Daniel Conway) Date: Fri Aug 7 17:37:30 2009 Subject: [UniMacTech] Storage Options for HD Video and Final Cut? Message-ID: <4A7C6623020000F1000377FD@WINDOMPRD00.newcastle.edu.au> Hi Mitch, We have just implemented an EditShare SAN for this very purpose. And it is quite possible to have 24HD streams over gigE so long as it is set up correctly. I assume you are probably using some kind of compressed HD variant as well which would greatly save network overheads. Our system is guarnteed to 36 25MB/s streams, which suits us well for labs (26 Machines) where they are using 720p(compressed) at 19MB/s and our suites (18) where we are using 1080i(again compressed) at 35MB/s. From my understanding of the system they can tailor any amount of streams over gigE, so long as you network infrastructure can cope with it. If you wanted to call and caht about our experience thus far feel free. Cheers Dan Daniel Conway Technical Advisor Faculty of Science and IT University of Newcastle ------------------------------------------------------------- Phone: (02) 498 54504 >>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:25 PM, in message , Michel Haggman wrote: Hi everyone, With HD video becoming the industry (and thus teaching) standard, storage constraints are quickly becoming the big issue for our Final Cut machines. It?s hard to justify the price difference between an iMac and a MacPro when all we really need the MacPro for is the second hard drive bay ? yet I seem to be at a loss for a suitable alternative. Is anyone doing anything interesting/cost effective to circumvent this problem? I had thought to go some kind of desktop firewire raid device, but then the problem arises that the DVcam will be on the same firewire bus. A SAN for the lab also is out of the question because 24 HD streams (even over gig ethernet) will be a big fat fail. Thoughts? -Mitch From Daniel.Conway at newcastle.edu.au Fri Aug 7 16:41:11 2009 From: Daniel.Conway at newcastle.edu.au (Daniel Conway) Date: Fri Aug 7 17:46:06 2009 Subject: [UniMacTech] Storage Options for HD Video and Final Cut? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A7C5925.6094.00F1.0@newcastle.edu.au> Hi Mitch, We have just implemented an EditShare SAN for this very purpose. And it is quite possible to have 24HD streams over gigE so long as it is set up correctly. I assume you are probably using some kind of compressed HD variant as well which would greatly save network overheads. Our system is guarnteed to 36 25MB/s streams, which suits us well for labs (26 Machines) where they are using 720p(compressed) at 19MB/s and our suites (18) where we are using 1080i(again compressed) at 35MB/s. From my understanding of the system they can tailor any amount of streams over gigE, so long as you network infrastructure can cope with it. If you wanted to call and caht about our experience thus far feel free. Cheers Dan Daniel Conway Technical Advisor Faculty of Science and IT University of Newcastle ------------------------------------------------------------- Phone: (02) 498 54504 >>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:25 PM, in message , Michel Haggman wrote: Hi everyone, With HD video becoming the industry (and thus teaching) standard, storage constraints are quickly becoming the big issue for our Final Cut machines. It*s hard to justify the price difference between an iMac and a MacPro when all we really need the MacPro for is the second hard drive bay * yet I seem to be at a loss for a suitable alternative. Is anyone doing anything interesting/cost effective to circumvent this problem? I had thought to go some kind of desktop firewire raid device, but then the problem arises that the DVcam will be on the same firewire bus. A SAN for the lab also is out of the question because 24 HD streams (even over gig ethernet) will be a big fat fail. Thoughts? -Mitch -------------- next part -------------- Skipped content of type multipart/related From wayne.spagnol at jcu.edu.au Wed Aug 12 12:43:52 2009 From: wayne.spagnol at jcu.edu.au (Wayne Spagnol) Date: Wed Aug 12 12:47:59 2009 Subject: [UniMacTech] sus and autoupdate and install Message-ID: <4A822C68.3040008@jcu.edu.au> is it possible to have a machine do sus updates without user interaction eg lab machines point to sus server, lab machine downloads and installs updates. thanks wayne From C.Nancarrow at latrobe.edu.au Wed Aug 12 13:20:14 2009 From: C.Nancarrow at latrobe.edu.au (Charlie Nancarrow) Date: Wed Aug 12 13:21:06 2009 Subject: [UniMacTech] sus and autoupdate and install In-Reply-To: <4A822C68.3040008@jcu.edu.au> Message-ID: Hi, Use Apple Remote Desktop to send a Unix command (you can save as a schedule too!) softwareupdate -i -a as root, showing all output. If you get back any messages to say you should reboot, you should reboot the machines when convenient. If you don't reboot the machines as soon as practical, users may see some weird behaviour depending on the update and the apps in use. So long as you've also sent the following (once only) or via MCX policy to set the Apple Software Update Server defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.SoftwareUpdate CatalogURL "http://asus.yourdomain.edu.au:8088/index.sucatalog" Cheers Charlie La Trobe On 12/08/09 12:43 PM, "Wayne Spagnol" wrote: is it possible to have a machine do sus updates without user interaction eg lab machines point to sus server, lab machine downloads and installs updates. thanks wayne _______________________________________________ unimactech mailing list unimactech@auc.edu.au http://www.auc.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/unimactech -- Charlie IT Unit - Humanities & Social Sciences From jrhoades at svi.edu.au Wed Aug 12 13:33:53 2009 From: jrhoades at svi.edu.au (Jon Rhoades) Date: Wed Aug 12 13:34:35 2009 Subject: [UniMacTech] sus and autoupdate and install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A823821.4090005@svi.edu.au> Another top tip is to use: COMMAND_LINE_INSTALL=1 export COMMAND_LINE_INSTALL;softwareupdate -i -a This should avoid problems with EULAs that need accepting! (from http://www.afp548.com/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=7755) Regards Jon -- Jon Rhoades IT Support Officer St Vincent's Cluster St Vincent's Institute 41 Victoria Parade Fitzroy Vic 3065 p: 03 9288 2480 | f 03 9416 2676 www.svi.edu.au Charlie Nancarrow wrote: > Hi, > > Use Apple Remote Desktop to send a Unix command (you can save as a schedule too!) > > softwareupdate -i -a > > as root, showing all output. If you get back any messages to say you should reboot, you should reboot the machines when convenient. > If you don't reboot the machines as soon as practical, users may see some weird behaviour depending on the update and the apps in use. > > So long as you've also sent the following (once only) or via MCX policy to set the Apple Software Update Server > > defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.SoftwareUpdate CatalogURL "http://asus.yourdomain.edu.au:8088/index.sucatalog" > > Cheers > > Charlie > La Trobe > > > On 12/08/09 12:43 PM, "Wayne Spagnol" wrote: > > is it possible to have a machine do sus updates without user interaction > > eg lab machines point to sus server, lab machine downloads and installs > updates. > > thanks > wayne > _______________________________________________ > unimactech mailing list > unimactech@auc.edu.au > http://www.auc.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/unimactech > > > -- > Charlie > IT Unit - Humanities & Social Sciences > > _______________________________________________ > unimactech mailing list > unimactech@auc.edu.au > http://www.auc.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/unimactech > -- Jon Rhoades IT Support Officer St Vincent's Cluster St Vincent's Institute 41 Victoria Parade Fitzroy Vic 3065 p: 03 9288 2480 | f 03 9416 2676 www.svi.edu.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://auc.uow.edu.au/pipermail/unimactech/attachments/20090812/25b6d500/attachment.html From a.smith at centenary.usyd.edu.au Wed Aug 19 14:20:36 2009 From: a.smith at centenary.usyd.edu.au (Adrian Smith) Date: Wed Aug 19 14:30:32 2009 Subject: [UniMacTech] Important changes to your Apple warranty In-Reply-To: <6A9AD555-97B5-42F6-A942-77E99E7FBA5E@anu.edu.au> References: <24EEF56E-A7D3-4146-BB05-8C6C0B19EF41@centenary.usyd.edu.au> <219B99FD-16F8-4AFF-BBC6-909ECD3A34A2@asia.apple.com> <6BDC78B8-E6E1-4CE1-920E-3AFCD6BBDE72@centenary.usyd.edu.au> <6A9AD555-97B5-42F6-A942-77E99E7FBA5E@anu.edu.au> Message-ID: Dear all, We finally got pricing from Apple for our Institute going forwards. For us, transitional pricing (currently ends September) results in ~3-9% price increases. Post-transitional increases are ~5-16%. The most common configs we buy are base-model MacBook Pro (16% increase) and base-model iMac 20 (9% increase). Note we have been uplifting Tri-Care to onsite and these increases are over the "uplifted" price, ie we are getting NOTHING of value for the increase. Pathetic. Regards, Adrian Smith Centenary Institute, Sydney, Australia PS we still cannot get pricing on volume licensig for Snow Leopard. Really helps with budgeting! On 16/07/2009, at 2:05 PM, Matt Gray wrote: > > On 16/07/2009, at 1:35 PM, Adrian Smith wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Did that session happen? Can someone please summarise the outcome >> of the session for those of us not fortunate enough to be there? > > > > My take on the session - please note that my understanding might not > be complete, and also note that anything I say isn't an attack on > the Apple employee who bravely stood up the front. He was given a > hard job and did well with the material that he was allowed to > present. > > Other people probably have a better understanding and can clear up > some of my thoughts below: > > > (1) TriCare is going. > > Reasons given include: > > Australia is different from the rest of the world, they want to make > us the same, so that if someone takes a laptop overseas they can get > support (this is an interesting argument, as you could always > purchase an additional overseas maintenance contract by getting APP). > > There is a move from departments/unis buying laptops to individual > staff or students buying them, and Apple wants to support them > better, and they think they can't do it with TriCare. (Personally I > think this argument is a load of crap, because individuals don't get > TriCare anyway, Apple dropped that years ago. How is dropping > TriCare for departments going to help support the larger number of > individual purchasers?). > > Apple is ranked high in customer satisfaction, and that is because > of the software support, and they want to give individuals more > software support, and they can't do that if TriCare is in place > (again... WTF?). > > And the one I loved: Recent price drops for hardware mean you wont > even notice the cost of additional maintenance. Nice. > > > (2) Replacements are many and varied: > > You can get AppleCare Protection Plan, which has always existed. > This adds hardware maintenance to the 3rd year, and telephone > support to the 3rd year. Cost varies from product to product, but > is in the range of $150 - $380 based on what I've seen. > > You can get as above, but with an SLA as to how long replacements > will take. This adds a small amount (about 25% again) to the cost > of the maintenance. > > There is a Software Support offering, where you pay $2900 per > institution per year to have two of your employees able to contact > Apple for any client software support. If you could funnel all of > your Mac software support through two people, it would be worth the > money! > > There is also a Server version of above, which is $7000 per year per > institution. Again, only two people can be nominated as the contacts. > > Or, you can pick and choose from a multitude of different things. > You can get just hardware maintenance with no telephone support. > You can get just telephone support. You can get a battery > warranty. You can combine these things. The kicker is that if you > go this way, Apple is going to negotiate a price with each > university separately. The price for one uni for a 2 year > maintenance deal might be different to another uni for the same > thing, depending on the negotiation power of your particular uni > contracts person. This will be a per machine cost, and despite many > questions about this at the X World session, Apple simply refused to > give any indication as to pricing. The line was "your uni will talk > to Apple and work out a price". > > > (3) Outcomes of the session: > > Pretty much everyone in the room was pissed, and Apple reps knew > it. Apple reps got swamped with shouty people after the session, so > who knows what happened there. > > A few people were frankly shocked that Apple is going down the "each > uni has a secret price with us" route, and many suggestions were > made that we should all publish our prices somewhere so people can > see what is being offered. The AUC was suggested as a place to > publish these prices - I don't know how that would go politically or > legally. > > Overall, people were upset that Apple is presenting this as "We want > to do all your desktop support for users so they like Macs better > than if you help them". > > Fun times ahead! > > (4) Things not discussed: > > I was interested in the argument that the ACCC would be unhappy that > Apple products die in the first 3 years anyway. I think this is > worth investigation - if every uni refused to purchase additional > maintenance and started sending ACCC forms to Apple, it would be > quite funny I think. > > Again, these are my views on what was said - they may differ from > reality. > > Matt. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > unimactech mailing list > unimactech@auc.edu.au > http://www.auc.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/unimactech