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Peter surely you're not taking away the fun of blaming Microsoft for
this ?<br>
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Peter Stagg wrote:
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cite="mid:OFEE7C7B6D.CEED675F-ONCA257577.007BCC8E-CA257577.007EC97B@monash.edu.au"
type="cite"><tt><font size="2">>> Hi folks<br>
>> We have a user writing grant applications in both Word 2007 on
a PC and Word<br>
>> 2007 on a MacBook but some of the symbols are disappearing
when
switching<br>
>> from on the other. If she uses the Greek Ï’, for example, in
Word 2008 then<br>
>> opens in Word 2007, the symbol is replaced with a box, and the
same happens<br>
>> the other way, and for some other symbols, too. I have found a
few threads<br>
>> on Google, but no real solutions, apart from using LaTex or
PDF.
The grant<br>
>> has to be submitted as a Word doc, apparently.<br>
>> Has anyone found a way around this?<br>
>> Thanks<br>
>> Al</font></tt>
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<tt><font size="2">> Response from user-:<br>
> Al<br>
> I have done it in two ways. The first was via “insert
->symbolâ€
which was<br>
> how I had always done it. These did a disappearing trick in
the PC-Mac<br>
> exchanges. When I put them back in on the Mac by this process,
they
seemed<br>
> to be fine and had been writing away merrily when right before my
eyes, I<br>
> saw word go through automatically and take them all out – quite
odd. Then I<br>
> went onto the word help for inserting symbols and it suggested
using
the<br>
> objects palette and select symbols. This I diligently did, but
when I open<br>
> on or send to a PC, these disappear too. I thought Office had
gotten over<br>
> compatibility problems.<br>
> Thanks<br>
> Jennelle</font></tt>
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<tt><font size="2">Ok this is a font problem - the square box
indicated
the selected font does not have or is missing (never had to begin with
- is corrupted and lost) the glyph inserted which isn't as bad a seeing
a question mark take the place of the character you really want (this
is
trouble).</font></tt>
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<tt><font size="2">The solution is make sure you use a *Unicode* font
that is installed on both systems. Arial Unicode MS (not plane Arial)
and
Lucida Sans Unicode, form memory, are the two most complete Unicode
fonts.
There should be little or no difference between these fonts on the two
platforms if they are from the same era (same release of office for
Mac/PC).
Make sure you don't inset characters from Non-Unicode/Symbols fonts
(the
old 256 character, TrueType, fonts) for example **Symbol**.</font></tt>
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<tt><font size="2">For complete compatibility you can down-load a
font
like Douolus SIL from </font></tt><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://tinyurl.com/6ashzy"><tt><font size="2">http://tinyurl.com/6ashzy</font></tt></a><tt><font
size="2">
for both systems. This font looks a lot like Times New Roman and
contains
all symbols required for the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) and
then some (not sure how complete its coverage of Greek Letters is but
I'd
be surprised if it didn't have all the glyphs you need). </font></tt>
<br>
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<tt><font size="2">Remember also that fonts are a resource separate
from
the document. If you need to send the doc electronically its best to
embed
the fonts used in the document (look in the options panels) you can
usually
choose between embedding only the symbols you've used or the entire
font.
The first is preferable as Unicode fonts can be huge and the size of
your
document will blow out completely. </font></tt>
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<font face="sans-serif" size="2">-- <br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Peter Stagg<br>
Faculty Webmaster<br>
Arts Information Technology<br>
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